AI is about to replace bloated SaaS, and most businesses are still only playing with chatbots
Sean G Muller says the next wave of AI is not about better prompts or prettier copilots. It is about rebuilding business around context, agents, and what actually creates value – before your software stack becomes the expensive middleman.
Mark Smth and Sean unpack why the last six months have been a genuine shift: agentic loops are now good enough to handle real business work, not just experiments. Sean explains how he moved from traditional technical architecture into building full application pipelines, MCP servers, and background agents that review email, track social signals, draft responses, and keep business moving without adding more human overhead.
You'll discover why context is the missing ingredient in almost every failed AI project, how Sean uses a simple meal-planning example to explain it, and why companies that scatter knowledge across laptops, SharePoint, Google Cloud, and people's heads are sitting on hidden risk. Sean also breaks down the difference between AI as a feature and AI as a business transformation engine, including the mistake many firms make when they bolt chat onto old workflows and call it progress.
We also get into the coming SaaS pocalypse – the idea that tools like HubSpot, Salesforce, Xero, Slack, and Atlassian may face a serious reckoning as businesses realize they can build leaner, custom, agent-first systems for less than the cost of endless licenses and modules. Sean shares how he built a headless, agent-driven CRM and why he thinks greenfield builds will replace expensive transformation projects much sooner than most executives expect. This conversation matters if you lead a business, run operations, own a small or mid-sized company, or simply suspect your current software is forcing you to work the wrong way. If you want to understand where AI is actually delivering leverage right now – and how to avoid wasting money on shallow pilots – this episode is essential listening.
Mark Smth hosts the conversation and brings the enterprise and product lens, pushing Sean to get specific about what success looks like for real businesses in New Zealand.
Sean G Muller is an AI and enterprise architecture specialist based in New Zealand, known for helping organizations build practical AI systems, implement agentic workflows, and rethink business process from the ground up.
Resources
1. The Cuckoo's Egg: Tracking a Spy Through the Maze of Computer Espionage – https://www.amazon.com.au/dp/0385249462?ref_=mr_referred_us_au_nz
2. Gemini: A Family of Highly Capable Multimodal Models — 2312.11805.pdf https://arxiv.org/abs/2312.11805
3. On the Measure of Intelligence — 1911.01547.pdf – https://arxiv.org/pdf/1911.01547
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Thanks for listening 🚀 – Mark Smith