
Change Leadership vs Management: What Humans Do Best
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This episode explores why emotional resilience is becoming a core leadership skill in the age of AI. Jennifer Selby Long explains how a leader’s emotional state shapes team performance, why calm and consistency now matter more than constant disruption, and how grounded leadership enables effective change. Drawing on real client examples, she shares practical frameworks leaders can use to build self awareness, manage stress, and lead transformation without burning themselves or their teams out.
👉 Full Show Notes
https://www.microsoftinnovationpodcast.com/817
🎙️ What you’ll learn
• Why a leader’s emotional state is contagious and shapes team outcomes
• The difference between change management and change leadership in practice
• How calm, consistency, and grounding build trust during rapid change
• Frameworks leaders use to recognise stress triggers and manage reactions
• Why emotional intelligence is a competitive advantage in AI driven workplaces
• Change Leadership vs Management: What Humans Do Best
👉 Chapters
• 04:25 Calm Is Now a Leadership Skill
• 06:31 Why a Leader’s Emotional State Is Contagious
• 07:17 Management vs Leadership in the Age of AI
• 15:36 Change Is No Longer Optional or Initiated by You
• 19:33 Groundedness Beats Charisma Every Time
• 25:26 From Triggered to Trusted: A CISO’s Turnaround Story
• 30:20 The Human Advantage AI Can’t Replicate
✅ Find Jennifer Online:
• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jenniferselbylong/
• X: https://x.com/JenniferSelby
🔴 Highlights
• “The emotional state of the leader is highly contagious to the team.”
• “You really need to understand those stakeholders and get those folks aligned.”
• “Change management is about ensuring completion to a standard.”
• “Change leadership is keeping people hopeful, inspired, and focused on the future.”
• “The leadership element is what the human brings.”
• “Calm, consistency, and stability in leaders has been really underemphasised.”
• “Even when you think you’re hiding your emotions, you’re not.”
• “Cultivating inner calm is a surprisingly vital foundational skill for leaders today.”
🧰 Mentioned
• Shirzad Chamine: https://positiveintelligence.com/about/
• Positive Intelligence by Shirzad Chamine: https://books.google.com/books/about/Positive_Intelligence.html?id=ziSoxw_ACSwC
• The Problem with Change by Ashley Goodall: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/203578496-the-problem-with-change
• Myers-Briggs Type Indicator: https://www.themyersbriggs.com/en-US/Explore-Solutions/MBTI
✅Keywords
emotional intelligence, change leadership, change management, leadership resilience, grounded leadership, stakeholder alignment, organisational change, ai leadership, inner calm, self awareness, saboteur mindset, positive intelligence
Microsoft 365 Copilot Adoption is a Microsoft Press book for leaders and consultants. It shows how to identify high-value use cases, set guardrails, enable champions, and measure impact, so Copilot sticks. Practical frameworks, checklists, and metrics you can use this month. Get the book: https://bit.ly/CopilotAdoption
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Get featured on the show by leaving us a Voice Mail: https://bit.ly/MIPVM
This episode explores why emotional resilience is becoming a core leadership skill in the age of AI. Jennifer Selby Long explains how a leader’s emotional state shapes team performance, why calm and consistency now matter more than constant disruption, and how grounded leadership enables effective change. Drawing on real client examples, she shares practical frameworks leaders can use to build self awareness, manage stress, and lead transformation without burning themselves or their teams out.
👉 Full Show Notes
https://www.microsoftinnovationpodcast.com/817
🎙️ What you’ll learn
• Why a leader’s emotional state is contagious and shapes team outcomes
• The difference between change management and change leadership in practice
• How calm, consistency, and grounding build trust during rapid change
• Frameworks leaders use to recognise stress triggers and manage reactions
• Why emotional intelligence is a competitive advantage in AI driven workplaces
• Change Leadership vs Management: What Humans Do Best
👉 Chapters
• 04:25 Calm Is Now a Leadership Skill
• 06:31 Why a Leader’s Emotional State Is Contagious
• 07:17 Management vs Leadership in the Age of AI
• 15:36 Change Is No Longer Optional or Initiated by You
• 19:33 Groundedness Beats Charisma Every Time
• 25:26 From Triggered to Trusted: A CISO’s Turnaround Story
• 30:20 The Human Advantage AI Can’t Replicate
✅ Find Jennifer Online:
• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jenniferselbylong/
• X: https://x.com/JenniferSelby
🔴 Highlights
• “The emotional state of the leader is highly contagious to the team.”
• “You really need to understand those stakeholders and get those folks aligned.”
• “Change management is about ensuring completion to a standard.”
• “Change leadership is keeping people hopeful, inspired, and focused on the future.”
• “The leadership element is what the human brings.”
• “Calm, consistency, and stability in leaders has been really underemphasised.”
• “Even when you think you’re hiding your emotions, you’re not.”
• “Cultivating inner calm is a surprisingly vital foundational skill for leaders today.”
🧰 Mentioned
• Shirzad Chamine: https://positiveintelligence.com/about/
• Positive Intelligence by Shirzad Chamine: https://books.google.com/books/about/Positive_Intelligence.html?id=ziSoxw_ACSwC
• The Problem with Change by Ashley Goodall: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/203578496-the-problem-with-change
• Myers-Briggs Type Indicator: https://www.themyersbriggs.com/en-US/Explore-Solutions/MBTI
✅Keywords
emotional intelligence, change leadership, change management, leadership resilience, grounded leadership, stakeholder alignment, organisational change, ai leadership, inner calm, self awareness, saboteur mindset, positive intelligence
Microsoft 365 Copilot Adoption is a Microsoft Press book for leaders and consultants. It shows how to identify high-value use cases, set guardrails, enable champions, and measure impact, so Copilot sticks. Practical frameworks, checklists, and metrics you can use this month. Get the book: https://bit.ly/CopilotAdoption
🔴 Subscribe for all the latest AI Unfiltered Show News: https://www.youtube.com/nz365guy?sub_confirmation=1
🔴 Share this video with a Youtuber friend: https://youtu.be/aLhOo1tmG2o
✅ Recommended Playlist: Hear the latest from Senior Microsoft Staff
👉 Power 365 Show – https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLzf0yupPbVkqyy0tYMOozNcXsEdVn4sqh
👉 Copilot Show – https://studio.youtube.com/playlist/PLzf0yupPbVkqPyRqPii192UiJuT-SQHw-/videos
✅ All our Microsoft Innovation Podcasts: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLzf0yupPbVkoEIfkNYZ0dModTR5aLbRh3
✅ Let’s Connect:
Collaborate with me here – https://cloverbase.com
YouTube – https://www.youtube.com/nz365guy
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I’m Mark Smith – nz365guy – Helping people reach their full potential
I have been a Microsoft Business Applications MVP for over 14 years. I am passionate about helping people reach their full potential, through training, coaching and mentorship.
Accelerate your Microsoft career with the 90 Day Mentoring Challenge (https://www.90daymc.com/)
Support the show (https://www.buymeacoffee.com/nz365guy)
If you want to get in touch with me, you can message me here on LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/nz365guy).
Thanks for listening 🚀 – Mark Smith
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